as an update on my side it looks like the conference I'm headed to in india afterwards is actually looking at moving back to the dates they originally told me, November 13-16. This doesn't affect my availability for the Nov 9th, if anything it makes it easier.
@ekmett Thanks for your update. We in haskell-jp members need to talk about what we want you to talk in the conference. As you said, up to audience volume and knowledge, we will tell you. @igrep Kindly let us know about it.
The venue https://techplay.jp/space accommodates at most 200 people. Currently there's no plan about required knowledge for the audience. But I guess they expect @ekmett to give a very advanced, and deep talk. Anyway, how's your recent activity related to Haskell going? There might be a nice idea for the talk.
@igrep Thank you for letting us know the details. Edward wants to know the knowledge, because up to it, he is thinking what he will talk, so how much haskell-jp members know about Haskell and Edward’s lenses or so.
@masakolee We can't get sure of it because Haskell Day 2019 is an open event: anyone registered can join (and the scope of "Haskell-jp members" is actually not defined). So what we should do is to decide knowledge required for the audience, not get how much they know.
But actually we can guess it: people who have heard of Ekmett would know at least introductory knowledge of lens (and of the other libraries as well). Because they usually know lens before Ekmett himself.
Basically all I wanted to know was the approximate level of the audience to help pick an appropriate topic. If it is mostly introductory Haskellers, then for instance doing something on how to use or build lenses might be more appropriate than something on my bleeding-edge projects.
I'm not sure the level, but actually I think there are sufficient introductory information about Lens (even in Japanese), and people who know your name expect you to give an advanced topic (like me :slightly_smiling_face: ).
I can't accept your proposal in several ways :confused: : - We can't make slides so soon. We've never decided who'll give a talk yet! - As I repeated, what we should do is not to know the real level of audience, but to define the target level of audience. Because: - Really various levels of people would be audience because Haskell Day 2019 is an open event: where anyone can take part, not specific members of a company/association. - So generally, we never can know the (approximate) level of audience. But we can (and should) decide the target, then specify it in the registration page and the announcement.
One more note: @ekmett You don't have to be worried your talk is too difficult that the audience can't understand your talk: There are some advanced Haskellers who love your library and they want to hear deep topic.
@igrep oh well, yes as you mention, it looks like a bit difficult for us to know the knowledge of audience, but I thought it was a way to deepen the understanding of all the audience. Of course there are also beginners. English lecture in front of the audience, especially listening to Edward’s lectures is very exciting I bet.
I don’t want you to misunderstand. I NEVER push you. As fumi san said, how much developmental content we want, I agree with him. Step by step I hope we could decide various things about this conference.